Imp-Subjective Order-All matters-20090616-174916 (please crosscheck)

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  1. 1 CounterMedia November 26, 2010 at 8:27 pm

    (I am keeping the name as unknown voice since the name does not seem to be clear)

    UV: Niira

    NR: You called

    NR: hello

    UV: Yep

    NR: you called, (name not clear)

    UV: Yep

    NR: What.

    UV: Where are you

    NR: At Home

    UV: Having fun

    NR: I have been on the phone since morning

    UV: Why…

    NR: You Know, I tell you one thing.I went through the judgement. You know there are things in the judgement that has. even If you Look at the scope of the judgement. It is only been written by a lawyer.

    UV: HMMM

    NR: It’s not written by a judge. You can tell that by from way it has been written.
    Secondly there are things that have been said in the judgement For eg: In one of the points 308 which you would be critical in your argument.

    UV: Like what?

    NR: Like, In The board meeting. The minutes of the board meeting its said that the particular decision has been annulled.

    UV: hmmmm

    NR: The minutes says that it has been annulled. Right.

    UV: hmmmm

    NR: The minutes of the court says that but there was some errr.. tacit a understanding and wrongdoing to Anil Ambani.

    UV: hmmm

    NR: It’s subjective. (PAUSE)
    The full minutes were never presented in the court. From either side how does they know. It’s not part of any submission.

    uv: (Not clear)

    NR: No. That is small. The Other thing is that I have been pushing in the media to the editors has been – court. They did this diversion of court. … Right. … How could that happen. Third part. They did it post the event.Right

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Then happened Spectrum. How did spectrum happen. Restrospect. …………TDSAT. ….Sunil Mittal and everybody went to supreme court.
    ….Court-High Court. That apart went to Supreme Court

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Then came gas. How can a natural asset of the country be decided by a judge who is deciding on an MoU between two brothers. who ever the brothers are. It doesnt matter. Either of the brothers have no right. So

    UV: How are people reacting to that?

    NR: All three natural resources.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Fourth point. Iron ore mines in Jharkhand.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: He is asking for iron ore mine when he doesnt even have steel plant. He is asking for gas when he doesnt even have power plant.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: What is his attempt. His attempt is: I Anil Ambani. I am trying to take all natural resources of the country for personal profit. Therefore natural resources cannot be decided by a government.I mean Cannot be decided by a department like Shinde or Raja. Cannot be decided by a state government in the case of iron ore and coal.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Spectrum cannot be decided by Mr Raja again. It cannot be decided by
    regional parties.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: It has to be decided through a one policy mechanism at the top which can happen only at the purview of the prime minister. It doesnt matter who it is. It doesnt matter if Mukesh Ambani. It doesnt matter if Tata.

    UV: New argument.Is it? But how people responding to it?

    NR: Very very positive.Every body agrees because
    if you talk about Yeddiyurappa in Karnataka with Bellary. You TALK about Madhu Koda asking 150 crores per mine. Who the. Everyone today knows the mining scam.Who doesnt know that. Right. It is the natural resource of the country. Spectrum. They are in court. It has been a dispute for last six years.

    UV: Come. We will do a half an hour of this tomorrow.

    NR: It’s a very valid fact.

    UV: hAAN.

    NR: It cannot be…

    UV: inaudible

    [Ends abruptly]

  2. 2 Deepak Shenoy November 27, 2010 at 10:54 am

    Edits marked in bold.

    UV: Niira

    NR: You called

    NR: hello

    UV: Yep

    NR: you called, (name not clear) Note: This seems to be “Darling”?

    UV: Yep

    NR: What.

    UV: Where are you

    NR: At Home

    UV: Having fun

    NR: (Note: I think she says the name here, it’s not very audible.)>I have been on the phone

    since morning

    UV: Why…

    NR: You Know, I tell you one thing.I went through the judgement. You know there are things in the

    judgement that has. even If you Look at the scope of the judgement. It is only been (there’s no

    “been”) written by a lawyer.

    UV: HMMM

    NR: It’s not written by a judge. You can tell that by from way it has been written.
    Secondly there are things that have been said in the judgement For eg: In one of the points 308

    which you would be critical in your argument.

    (which he would not be privy to, it was never in arguments)

    UV: Like what?

    NR: Like, In The board meeting. The minutes of the board meeting its said that the particular

    decision has been annulled.

    UV: hmmmm

    NR: The minutes says that it has been annulled. Right.

    UV: hmmmm

    NR: The minutes of the court (Edit: should be “board”)says that but there was some errr..

    tacit a understanding and wrongdoing to Anil Ambani.

    UV: hmmm

    NR: It’s subjective. (PAUSE)
    The full minutes were never presented in the court. From either side how does they know. It’s not

    part of any submission.

    ( He’s subjective. (PAUSE) He…The board minutes were never presented in the court. Bu either

    side. How does he know? It’s not part of any submission.)

    uv: (Not clear) (That’s pretty serious. So then?)

    NR: No. That is small. The Other thing is that I have been pushing in the media to the editors has

    been – court. They did this diversion of court. … Right. … How could that happen. Third part. They

    did it post the event.Right

    (Edit: NR: No. That is small. That is another thing. Now, the Other thing is that I have been

    pushing in the media since morning with the editors has been – Coal. They did this diversion of

    coal. Right? Sasan. How did that happen? Third part. They did it post the event. Right?

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Then happened Spectrum. How did spectrum happen. Restrospect. …………TDSAT. ….Sunil Mittal and

    everybody went to supreme court.
    ….Court-High Court. That apart went to Supreme Court

    Edit:
    NR: Then happened Spectrum. How did spectrum happen. Restrospect. (inaudible) to technology. Fixed

    went to TDSAT. TDSAT. Sunil Mittal and everybody went to supreme court. Coal-High Court. Tata Power

    went to Supreme Court

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Then came gas. How can a natural asset of the country be decided by a judge who is deciding on

    an MoU between two brothers. who ever the brothers are. It doesnt matter. Either of the brothers

    have no right. So Add: all three…

    UV: How are people reacting to that?

    NR: All three natural resources.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Fourth point. Iron ore mines in Jharkhand.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: He is asking for iron ore mine when he doesnt even have steel plant. He is asking for gas when

    he doesnt even have power plant.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: What is his attempt. His attempt is: I Anil Ambani. I am trying to take all natural resources

    of the country for personal profit. Therefore natural resources cannot be decided by a government.I

    mean Cannot be decided by a department like Shinde or Raja. Cannot be decided by a state government

    in the case of iron ore and coal.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: Spectrum cannot be decided by Mr Raja again. It cannot be decided by
    regional parties.

    UV: Hmmm

    NR: It has to be decided through a one policy mechanism at the top which can happen only at the

    purview of the prime minister. It doesnt matter who it is. It doesnt matter if Add: it’s

    Mukesh Ambani. It doesnt matter if Add: it is Tata.

    UV: New argument.Is it? But how Add: are people responding to it?

    NR: Very very positive.Every body agrees because
    if you talk about Yeddiyurappa in Karnataka with Bellary. You TALK about Madhu Koda asking 150

    crores per mine. Who the. Everyone today knows the mining scam.Who doesnt know that. Right. It is

    the natural resource of the country. Spectrum. They are in court. It has been a dispute for last

    six years.

    UV: Come. We will do a half an hour of this tomorrow.

    NR: It’s a very valid fact.
    Edit:
    NR: Very very positive. Everybody agrees because
    if you talk about Yeddiyurappa in Karnataka with Bellary. You talk about Madhu Koda asking 150

    crores per mine. Who the…Everyone today knows the mining scam. Who doesnt know that, right? It is

    a natural resource of the country. Spectrum. They are in court. It has been a dispute for last six

    years.

    UV: Okay. Come. We will do a half an hour on this tomorrow.

    NR: But it’s a very valid fact.

    UV: hAAN.

    NR: It cannot be…

    UV: inaudible ( Accha, so what..)

    [Ends abruptly]

  3. 3 SD December 5, 2010 at 10:03 pm

    Thanks, it’s on the OL site now


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