Shankkar Aiyar–20090522-110908

Shankkar Aiyar–20090522-110908 

Saira has transcribed this tape in a comment below.


2 Responses to “Shankkar Aiyar–20090522-110908”

  1. 1 Saira November 29, 2010 at 5:00 am

    Caller Tune: Pal Pal Pal Har Pal Har Pal Kaise…
    Female Voice (Radia): Shankar… Hi.
    Shankar: Are you still in some serious meeting and all?
    Female Voice (Radia): No no no no.. I wanted to tell you (incomprehensible)
    Shankar: Oh
    Female Voice (Radia): The thing is that… there are two things that are happening. One, the Congress has not ever talked about Balu or about Raja or anything like that… seriously…
    Shankar: Yeah
    Female Voice (Radia): Right? They have not said that. Their main…
    Shankar: That’s what I told them last night. I don’t know whether you were… Last night I said, there, I said I am a little mystified as to how everybody seems to know what the Prime Minister has told, except the two ministers and the DMK itself because.. if…
    Female Voice (Radia): Karunanidhi… Yeah!
    Shankar: Yeah …if the Prime Minister said so then the Congress party should come out and say “Ok, we don’t… we have (incomprehensible) that these two ministers should not be there. Come out and say it?!
    Female Voice (Radia): That’s right.
    Shankar: If you don’t say it, then what are you admitting? That you lived with a corrupt … uh… minister through five years and couldn’t do about anything about it?
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm Hmm
    Shankar: Toh maine bole yeh sab faaltugiri hai… (so I said that all this is nonsense)
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm
    Shankar: Tumhare apne ministers kaun sa bahut saare efficient hain. (Your own ministers are not so efficient) You’ve lived with a disaster called Shivraj Patil for five years.
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm
    Shankar: toh… (so)
    Female Voice (Radia): Sushil Kumar Shinde
    Shankar: Haan (Yes)
    Female Voice (Radia): Haan… Hai na… (Yes. Isn’t it?)
    So now, the thing is that what they have done is… they have only given a hint by… to… through Maran and again they are talking to the wrong people. You see what’s happening is, all these messaging coming out that they accept Maran and they don’t want the other two…
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): The other thing is that Aragiri is a… see… mass leader. Right?
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): And and basically the problem is that there was Balu, Raja and Maran. That’s how it got settled.
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): Aragiri MO is independent…
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): and even Kani MO is.
    Shankar: Correct… Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): So the… so the view was that when Aragiri is… so Aragiri followers and the DMK leaders in Tamil Nadu said, you know, he is a… such a senior leader…
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): …how can you give an MO as you take Maran out of that. Or you drop Balu. Because Raja they can’t because of Dalit.
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): So you drop one of them.
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): which is where then Selvi started intervening and saying “I will commit suicide… I will do this”. Poor old man is in… under so much pressure.
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): Separately, Congress told Maran that we do not want to give infrastructure portfolios…
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): to Balu or to you… that’s what the Prime Minister wishes which he has not relayed to Karunanidhi. Abhi problem kya hai, sab darte hain Karunanidhi ko kaun jake bolega.
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): Congress is not talking directly to Karunanidhi. They have to talk to… to him.
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (Radia): They have to…
    Shankar: Usmen bhi ek difficulty hai udhar. (Even there is a problem) I have… I have met Karunanidhi several times and despite my knowledge of Tamil, some of the times, you know, I can’t understand what he says.
    Female Voice (Radia): No, but then toh he can ask Ani who is a neutral person.
    Shankar: Haan… (Yeah) No! So hamesha main saath me mera ek ladka hai Anand Natarajan karke udhar. Usko saath me le jata hoon (giggles) (So I take this guy with me, called Anand Natarajan there) Just in case I don’t un… tsk.. Toh dekho… (So, look) I agree with you that they should talk to him directly instead of this. Main kal usko… Vishal ko phone karke wahi bataya. Maine bola wo Chintu ro raha hai. Bol raha hai ke saale sab log kyon Daya ki baat maante hain. Maine bola wo frame mein hai, tu frame mein nahi hai… (I called up Vishal yesterday and told him the same thing. I said that Chintu has been crying. Has been saying that why all these people agree to what Daya says. I told him that he is in the frame, you are not)
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm… Can I…
    Shankar: To bola haan ye to issue hai. Toh maine bola dekh abhi wo official negotiator kaun hai wo declare kar do tum… (Then he said that yeah, that’s an issue. So I said look, you declare who is the official negotiator)
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm
    Shankar: Saara qissa bahar ho jayega. (Everything will be leaked out)
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm
    Shankar: Toh… (So) Aur ensure that people know that Maran is not the official negotiator.
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm
    Shankar: Lekin (But) then I found out that this bloody English-speaking party only talks through English-speaking people
    Female Voice (Radia): Hmm
    Shankar: Aur wo… (And that) Anyway, wo Daya ko aur Rahul ko kuch business interest hai toh (If Daya and Rahul have a business interest then) that always is an issue… going to be an issue.
    Female Voice (Radia): What is the interest matlab?
    Shankar: Maloom nahi. Kuch software uftware… kuch to. Sab business interest hai kuch… dono ka. Jab ye mantri tha na tabhi ek baar ghalti se iske munh se kuch nikal gaya. (Don’t know. Some software thing. Something. There’s some business interest, both have. When he was a Minister, then only he happened to say leak out something by mistake)
    Female Voice (Radia): But I thought Rahul is the one who said he doesn’t want (inaudible)
    Shankar: Who? Dayanidhi? He doesn’t want Dayanidhi there?
    Female Voice (NR): Yeah!
    Shankar: Then… toh toot gaya hoga phir. Pata nahi. Mere ko ye… matlab… (Then the alliance might have fallen apart. Don’t know. I mean…) I am talking of 2006.
    Female Voice (NR): Nahi nahi… (No No) I think it’s it’s changed from that point. I think there’s something quite…
    Shankar: (Inaudible)
    Female Voice (NR): Nahi nahi I know that because… you know… they have… and the problem is… I agree with you, they have not declared who they officially negotiate with…
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (NR): That’s (inaudible) Karunanidhi needs to do…
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (NR): He can’t send five of them to negotiate na… which is what
    Shankar: Tsk.. No no… he should just simply… I mean this is the best time to make Aragiri or Kani the official DMK face in Delhi
    Female Voice (NR): Right
    Shankar: Bhai ye dono me se ek ko bolo tum negotiate karo bhai. (Tell one of them to negotiate)
    Female Voice (Radia): Right… Aragiri (inaudible)
    Shankar: Who better than… Haan… (Yes)
    Female Voice (NR): Hmm… That’s that’s the mistake. He needs to declare his official negotiator. (Pause)
    No… Anyway, that’s the problem. So, nobody has told him anything. So, he doesn’t know what’s going on. He is missed. He doesn’t understand. Nobody even told him that the Congress doesn’t want to…uhh.. give infrastructure portfolios to Balu or Maran.
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (NR): Which is why they suggested labour chemical fertilizer and telecom so that Raja can continue…
    Shanakar: Hmm hmm
    Female Voice (NR): This is not related to him. They’ve only told him there are three portfolios. So whatever you are seeing, is also seeing on television…
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (NR): And on his own Sun Network, he is carrying whatever he wants to be projected to his (inaudible).
    Shankar: Hmm
    Female Voice (NR): It’s as silly as that. Can you imagine? Tum batao na wo apne Congress walon ko. (You tell your Congress people na)
    Shankar: Kya bataoon (What do I tell them?)
    Female Voice (NR): Haan? Kaun hai… FM kaun hai? (What? Who is that? Who is the FM?)
    Shankar: Haan?
    Female Voice (NR): FM kaun hai? (Who is the FM?)
    Shankar: Pranab… Pranab
    Female Voice (NR): Pranab. And this one… uh… Commerce?
    Shankar: Maine Kamal ko maine kal phone kiya… (I called up Kamal yesterday)
    Female Voice (NR): Hmm
    Shankar: Wo keh raha kuch bhi decide nahi hua… bekaar me log kyon…matlab… Maine bola tu ja raha hai kya South Block, Raisinha (inaudible) ja raha hai kya tu… Toh nahi… bola nahi abhi to kuch decide nahi hua… baarah baje aaj ho.. tsk.. you are the first person who gave me that clarity ke aaj baarah baje final hoga list.
    Female Voice (NR): Hmm. So then I…
    There is perhaps some editing done here. The voice is overlapping.
    Female Voice (NR): Wo meeting abhi chal raha hai na (Isn’t that meeting going on?)
    Shankar: Shuru hua abhi… (It started right now)
    Female Voice (NR): Haan (Ok)
    Shankar: das baje shuru hua… (Started at 10)
    Female Voice (NR): Haan (Ok)
    Shankar: Das- sawa das baje shuru hua hoga (Might have started around 10-10:15)
    Female Voice (NR): Achcha (I see)
    Shankar: and go on till 1
    Female Voice (NR): Oh
    Shankar: Minister… none of… even the sure shot hundred per cent ministers have not been told
    Female Voice (NR): Hmm hmm. They will… they will get told after one o’clock… yeah.
    Shankar: So… Hmm
    Female Voice (NR): Chalo bata dena what you hear. (Ok, let me know what you hear)

  2. 2 SD December 6, 2010 at 2:58 pm

    Thanks! minor typos fixed — this is now on OL

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